Professional Band Instrument Repair Technician Logo

Featured Member

ID: CColston
Since: 6/10/2013
From:  
Rating: (0.0)

Featured Picture

Google Ads

  Active TopicsActive Topics  Display List of Forum MembersMemberlist  Search The ForumSearch  HelpHelp
Dent Removal
 PROBIRT Forums » Dent Removal
Subject Topic: Perfect Dent Work Post ReplyPost New Topic
Author
Message << Prev Topic | Next Topic >>
ChrisKane
Technician
Technician
Avatar

Joined: January.26.05
Location: USA
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 0
Posted: February.07.05 at 5:30pm | IP Logged Quote ChrisKane

Let talk about how to make a dent completely disappear. I can get pretty close, depending on the dent, but fall short when it comes to finishing. So after I have rubed, tapped, burnished, or rolled out the dent as smooth as possible, what are your ways to refinish the worked area?

What I have atempted to do is to buff the area and then lacquer with spray lacquer. Of course then the lacquer doesn't match the original. Then I was told by several other techs to try to match the lacquer by using a torch to darken the lacquer to match. This isn't working, espesially at the edges, where the two lacquers meet.

Thanks for all your help.
Back to Top View ChrisKane's Profile Search for other posts by ChrisKane
 
stevemarti
Technician
Technician


Joined: January.19.05
Location: USA
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 7
Posted: February.08.05 at 7:50am | IP Logged Quote stevemarti

I haven't seen an invisible finish touch-up yet. I think it just might be impossible. I sure would be intersted in a deonstration that I'm wrong. Sometimes you can make it less noticeable by finishing a whole piece or up to a visual parting line, but invisable?

Don't think so. I warn my customers beforehand it's not going to be invisible. Sometimes 99%, but never invisable.  
Back to Top View stevemarti's Profile Search for other posts by stevemarti
 
ChrisKane
Technician
Technician
Avatar

Joined: January.26.05
Location: USA
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 0
Posted: February.08.05 at 7:37pm | IP Logged Quote ChrisKane

I have never found a way to make it perfectly disappear. However, when I get ready to buff away the last evidence of the dent, I put masking tape around the entire area I plan to buff, then buff in a direction so that the wheel hits the tape before the horn (to help keep it from peeling off). While you will still have a line, you can use the tape to decide exactly where you want the line to be, and I think a straight line looks a heck of a lot better than the wavy, patchy spots I get without masking.

Hope this helps,

this was submited by funkydrumer7, and used with his permission
Back to Top View ChrisKane's Profile Search for other posts by ChrisKane
 
ChrisKane
Technician
Technician
Avatar

Joined: January.26.05
Location: USA
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 0
Posted: February.08.05 at 7:43pm | IP Logged Quote ChrisKane

thanks steve and funky, maybe it is imposible but I like the idea of the strait lines.  
Back to Top View ChrisKane's Profile Search for other posts by ChrisKane
 
NealAnderson
Technician & Clinician
Technician & Clinician


Joined: March.15.05
Location: USA
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 0
Posted: March.15.05 at 10:03am | IP Logged Quote NealAnderson

I've had some luck matching laquer by using gold laquer and clear fingernail polish.
Sometimes I can sprad a bit of gold laquer into it's cap and use the thinnest clear fingernail polish I can find to blend with it to make the color the right shade.
It doesn't match perfectly most of the time, but it's the closest solution I've found.
Back to Top View NealAnderson's Profile Search for other posts by NealAnderson
 
NealAnderson
Technician & Clinician
Technician & Clinician


Joined: March.15.05
Location: USA
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 0
Posted: March.15.05 at 10:07am | IP Logged Quote NealAnderson

Sometimes, on silver plate, it is possible to buff through the scarring if the dent wasn't bad.
Shape can be restored perfectly, but the scar will remain.
Even when you're successful at buffing the scar out, the scar is still there (in a density vs porosity sense).
I usually don't try too agressively to remove scars.
Back to Top View NealAnderson's Profile Search for other posts by NealAnderson
 
misel
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: February.14.06
Location: Denmark
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 5
Posted: September.05.06 at 2:39am | IP Logged Quote misel

What I learned, is that you could take a fine wet and dry paper and sand the rest of the dent away. Of course it will take some materiel away which is not good, but when you want to get rid of the dent completely, it could be a solution.

Just be sure that you first take so much of the dent away as possible by dent balls, tapping, burnishing etc. before you start to sand.
Back to Top View misel's Profile Search for other posts by misel
 
niers1
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: November.19.07
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2
Posted: December.31.08 at 3:36pm | IP Logged Quote niers1

IF you have a GOOD paint blend shop for auto finishes, they may be able to mix you a small amount of tinted lacquers in several shades. It's not cheap but you'll have the numbers that come close on specific jobs for future reference. It will help ALOT if you know whst is already on the piece you are working on.More sophisticated shops can determine what is on the piece.
Back to Top View niers1's Profile Search for other posts by niers1
 

If you wish to post a reply to this topic you must first login
If you are not already registered you must first register

  Post ReplyPost New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Powered by Web Wiz Forums version 7.9
Copyright ©2001-2004 Web Wiz Guide

This page was generated in 0.0938 seconds.

Login

Login to view contents and post messages and reviews
Username:
Password:

New Member Registration
Retrieve Lost Password

Shout Box

  • (10/9 17:13) ChrisHarnett: Doesn't seem very promising
  • (10/6 12:46) DriverDrobina: Is this site still active?
  • (10/6 12:45) DriverDrobina: I have the same concern
  • (6/2 17:51) Wailinfree: is this site still active?
  • (6/2 17:51) Wailinfree: is this site still active?
  • (4/29 12:46) BENSCHILDGEN: Cleaning snakes nowdays SUCK!
  • (12/4 22:44) dparker: Hey Brent!
  • (11/26 20:46) crousfrench: I'm back. Did you miss me?
  • (10/9 7:18) BENSCHILDGEN: What's going on out there?
  • (6/1 18:53) dparker: dparker@ciomit.com www.ciomit.com
  • (6/1 18:53) dparker: or we can do an online meeting
  • (6/1 18:53) dparker: It can be dangerous. If you could send some pic
  • (5/25 5:17) BENSCHILDGEN: It seemed as if it was silver brazed together
  • (5/25 5:17) BENSCHILDGEN: It seemed as if it was silver brazed together
  • (5/25 5:9) BENSCHILDGEN: I had an old tuba that I could not get it apart.
  • (5/25 5:8) BENSCHILDGEN: I just do not know much about the whole mechainsm
  • (5/24 14:2) dparker: How can I help with the clock springs?
  • (5/24 14:2) dparker: How can I help with the clock springs?
  • (5/18 5:9) BENSCHILDGEN: MAYBE THIS SITE SHOULD BE LINKED TO FACEBOOK
  • (4/26 7:20) BENSCHILDGEN: I need info on tubas with clocksprings for levers
  • (4/4 8:34) dparker: Indeed! I will be posting more soon!ore soon!
  • (3/30 11:36) BENSCHILDGEN: Let's try to get this site flowing again
  • (7/6 19:46) Krch: My favorite is uses for electric soldering guns!
  • (6/13 9:0) crousfrench: I still enjoy watching the videos over and over
  • (6/13 8:59) crousfrench: I haven't seen anything new in awhile, but
  • (5/31 21:36) Krch: articles...articles
SmartFlix.com How-To DVD Rental